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When i was little and got bored of drinking water i would imagine it tasting like food i really liked

wowza

jealous

bruh

Kei Wendt

When i was little and got bored of drinking water i would imagine it tasting like food i really liked

does that not make u hungry?

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it does to me

It does make me hungry

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But i can ignore my hunger a lot of the time

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If im not in a bad mood that is

yeaa

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its so weird tho

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like i can just feel like im eating steak or something

I am aphantasic but in moments when i feel safe and relaxed i can have imagination quite vivid. Also when i have flashbacks they can fee very real and be very vivid. I’m starting to think my aphantasia comes from the fact that my brain used to feel consistently in danger, and was focusing on surroundings, lookong for danger. With healing that seems to get much better

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like i can just feel like im eating steak or something

It's so fun, i cant believe i ever stopped doing that I forgot about it ig

Maybe it’s something that applies to (at least some) people too

Luminesce: Vividness of imagined senses (primarily visualization) varies by person (and for whether it's present at all, ie aphantasia) We don't know for sure (it's hard to measure experiences, and we often don't know to ask either), but it's estimated between 1% and 3% of the population is aphantasic (edited)

When i'm not relaxed i can't control my imagination either so yeah

Kei Wendt

It's so fun, i cant believe i ever stopped doing that I forgot about it ig

gobbling on an imaginary 3 course meal

Luminesce: Hyperphantasia on the other hand might be up to 10% of people (edited)

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For everyone else in between, it's a total spectrum

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I personally have always had very bad visualization quality, though it's very much still there (and it improves if I practice a lot over a couple weeks until I stop) (edited)

does it annoy u not been able to imagine stuff?

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it would really bug me

cant be annoyed if you never know what its like

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Certainly makes wonderlanding less enjoyable when it's 85% spent trying to focus on details better

i sometimes hate havinf vivid imagination

My whole life i thought that imagining things was just a figure of speech

Reisen

Certainly makes wonderlanding less enjoyable when it's 85% spent trying to focus on details better

that would be annoying

Luminesce: Probably why we do imposition moreso, since just imposing their sense of presence already contributes a lot to the experience even if the visual aspect is only so-so (edited)

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

cant be annoyed if you never know what its like

thats not true at all. There are plenty of things that I have never done or seen and it drives me crazy that i cant

I do have strong kinestheatic, presence and touch imagination though

whats kinestheatic?

body movement

Yes

ohh

im having lots of trouble with val, no communication at all like nothing and i have barely anytime to talk to her properly

Didnt you say she was talking before? Maybe she's just going through a quiet period Try to take time to talk to her though if you can — you can even do it while you're doing something else like studying. Or, you can try to talk to her as you fall asleep. Luminesce says that that can make tulpas annoyed that you fall asleep during talking with them, but i've always liked to talk to eishi when i'm going to sleep.

Kei Wendt

Didnt you say she was talking before? Maybe she's just going through a quiet period Try to take time to talk to her though if you can — you can even do it while you're doing something else like studying. Or, you can try to talk to her as you fall asleep. Luminesce says that that can make tulpas annoyed that you fall asleep during talking with them, but i've always liked to talk to eishi when i'm going to sleep.

it was more parroting then actual talking

4:59 PM

i asked the question again and focused and there was no responces

Do you feel anything when you look for a response? She might be communicating in a way other than words

nope nothing at all

I've never encountered this before so i'm not sure how to help but maybe just keep talking to her

i have been trying to talk to her but theres nothing

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wait lemme get my pendulum

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nothing

She's not moving the pendulum?

i mean i asked if she was there wnd it moved to no

Oh

5:07 PM

Maybe she's just having a quiet period That can happen Just keep an eye out for her, she'll probably come back within a few days

okay tyty

5:12 PM

i was planning on just restarting earlyer tbh

Well, you already have val, so there's no reason to restart I think it might set you back in progress if you did

i mean i dont think she is sentiant yet

Ah Maybe not But maybe since she was responding to you before

idk if she was responding, i asked the question again to make sure and there was no responce when i fully focused

So like an automatic response?

yep

I feel like there HAS to be some type of trick inside of tulpamancy

Luminesce: If you believe in things and let them happen, there's quite a lot that's possible. (edited)

I have a question

What is it

If tulpas are own person with their own agency how can the host just delete them?

Luminesce: Well, you can't "just delete them" (edited)

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I wrote a post on dissipation recently here: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/18607-is-tulpa-me/?do=findComment&comment=393249

Blaff

If tulpas are own person with their own agency how can the host just delete them?

I dont think the host can do it easily I think it would take basically no longer interacting with them and letting them dissipate

I wrote a post on dissipation recently here: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/18607-is-tulpa-me/?do=findComment&comment=393249

@Reisen - jump But what let's you dissipate them, can they not do the same because they have their own agency?

Luminesce: Did you read the post? (edited)

5:44 PM

Dissipation is completely refusing to let them be active anymore

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It means their neurons in the brain don't get used, and it takes however long based on how strongly built up those are in the brain for them to start fading

Dissipation is completely refusing to let them be active anymore

@Reisen - jump Yeah but I'm saying how do you have the power to not let them be active anymore

Luminesce: Most tulpas never gain the skill of becoming active 100% on their own (edited)

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Though I think I did note in that post that, if they did, dissipating them kind of goes out the window

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But, basically nobody so committed to tulpamancy that they gain that skill ever ends up wanting to dissipate their tulpas. (edited)

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At that point you just need to reason with them

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(As you should in general, of course)

ok that's understandable

It means their neurons in the brain don't get used, and it takes however long based on how strongly built up those are in the brain for them to start fading

@Reisen - jump Wait can you explain about the neuron thing

Luminesce: There's not much to explain, I don't have a PhD in neuroscience or something (edited)

8:40 PM

Neural connections in your brain seem to weaken with disuse or strengthen with use, so the ones that make up the various aspects of your tulpa need to be left completely inactive for a long time (varying by how well developed your tulpa was in your brain) to weaken those connections

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In other words, "Don't think about them at all and they'll start to fade over time"

8:41 PM

That's pretty different from "deleting". Especially since they can still generally be brought back for a pretty long time, dependent on how developed they were

basically a BAN

Luminesce: Also relevant in the opposite direction, building these neural connections over time is what leads to tulpas feeling more independent and autonomous (edited)

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This just is how tulpamancy works, but we can only really talk in vague terms and it's impossible to speak matter-of-factly in-depth on this without just sounding like pseudoscience, which is I suppose why it's not mentioned much

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I do try to avoid using the words "neurons/neural connections" in any real depth (same as the word "subconscious"), though they are still useful even just in vague concept

Reisen

Luminesce: There's not much to explain, I don't have a PhD in neuroscience or something (edited)

i know someone with a PhD if you need one

My friend's graduation is in just a few months, so soon I will too

i know someone with a PhD if you need one

@sh - jump they are not a real doctor

Alright don't get off topic joking, here

but they really arent... that would be an MD, but fine!

Luminesce: Sorry, thought you were joking about Shield's "internet PhD", but yeah still (edited)

Reisen

Alright don't get off topic joking, here

agreed. please be quiet @KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

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Reisen

Neural connections in your brain seem to weaken with disuse or strengthen with use, so the ones that make up the various aspects of your tulpa need to be left completely inactive for a long time (varying by how well developed your tulpa was in your brain) to weaken those connections

Sorry to hop in here. The term it is “pruning” I believe. Your brain does it most readily when you’re an infant, cause that’s the time when you’re forming the most connections as well. Both connections and pruning take longer as you age, I believe. It’s not just a weakening of connections, it sometimes involves removing whole neural pathways/neurons. The brain can only maintain so many (granted it is literally trillions of connections, but still) so when some neurons and pathways aren’t being used the brain snips them away so they can be reformed doing something more “important”

Luminesce: Huh, yeah, I don't know that much about neurology (if that's the right term lol) (edited)

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Though I can say the presence of a developed tulpa in the brain is way too complex to be outright removed in any short amount of time (edited)

9:24 PM

I gave estimates in the thread post from earlier, anyway

hi im new and i joined to ask a quesion, i've recently discovered tulpamancy and want to get more into it. i just have one question; is it ethical to get rid of a tulpa once you dont want them? what if you create the tulpa because you want to let out some anger? is it mean to be mean to them? just wondering

Luminesce: Creating a purposely independent entity just to hurt them is awful. (edited)